Swipe is Balanced

http://imgur.com/0SIVp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2vNKU.jpg
Feral Druid is Balanced
oh look, his level 72 Prot pally with vengeance is hitting a level 68 mob as hard with a half-cooldown ability as his level 80 druid in decent geared druid without vengeance against a level 70 target dummy.

oh look, his level 72 Prot pally with vengeance is hitting a level 68 mob as hard with a half-cooldown ability as his level 80 druid in decent geared druid without vengeance against a level 70 target dummy.

http://imgur.com/l9jjg.jpg
If that's really the level of damage they want Swipe at, there is nothing we can do about it. They've seen the numbers.

I just want to know WHY it hits for so little, and is trained at 36.
apparently they are serious about re-introducing CC to 5-mans. Aka, the dont want any tanking class chain AoE pull/tanking

Why are other tanks AoE abilities kept much stronger than ours then?

We get another "swipe" that adds a bleed at 81. Also on a six second cd (alternate them for an AOE every three seconds.)

Also, I just pulled up recount for whatever the last random instance I tanked was--my swipes hit for avg 1080, avg crit 2200 with 58% crit. So your gear is about half of what mine is. And I stopped raiding in March.

We get another "swipe" that adds a bleed at 81. Also on a six second cd (alternate them for an AOE every three seconds.)

if thrash is actually a viable AoE, it will just replace Swipe on our bars because it isn't worth the GCD right now. there's also additional issues with having our only useful AoE ability trainable at level 81 and not, you know, level 20.

Also, I just pulled up recount for whatever the last random instance I tanked was--my swipes hit for avg 1080, avg crit 2200 with 58% crit. So your gear is about half of what mine is. And I stopped raiding in March.

vengeance

you can armory me for my gear, i used full dps gear for that screenshot
Right. My mistake.

We get another "swipe" that adds a bleed at 81. Also on a six second cd (alternate them for an AOE every three seconds.)

Also, I just pulled up recount for whatever the last random instance I tanked was--my swipes hit for avg 1080, avg crit 2200 with 58% crit. So your gear is about half of what mine is. And I stopped raiding in March.

[citation needed]

Getting a 2k crit in ICC or 2 weeks ago doesn't count.

Im in full T10 (10-man, i know) but my swipes are hitting target dummies for 490, critting for 1K. 530/1.1k with Enrage.

So i decided to take off all my gear (except 2 piec tier 10) and hit the dummies again....
250 a hit. Which means going from 1545 AP to 4713 we get a whopping 250 damage done with our swipe. Very pathetic indeed.

BTW my swipe says in the tooltip that it does 960 damage, which is almost double what im hitting for, meaning that mobs apparently have 50% damage reduction from armor according to "swipe math"
Change title to

Swipe changes feral druids to balance.

We get another "swipe" that adds a bleed at 81. Also on a six second cd (alternate them for an AOE every three seconds.)

Also, I just pulled up recount for whatever the last random instance I tanked was--my swipes hit for avg 1080, avg crit 2200 with 58% crit. So your gear is about half of what mine is. And I stopped raiding in March.

There is no way your swipes are hitting that hard in a heroic unless you are somehow keeping vengence close to cap. In average ilvl270gear (cat gear), my swipes hit for about 650/1300. Against a level 1 critter in org, it just crit for 1800, with 6100ap.
http://imgur.com/0SIVp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2vNKU.jpg

The layout on these screens are neat. What are addons do i need to get my screen lookin like that??
May I ask what mod that is that's got the bar with the time's on it in .5 sec intervals and has cooldowns on it?

The layout on these screens are neat. What are addons do i need to get my screen lookin like that??

modified off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8IfmVJ02Fk
http://imgur.com/5PaNU.png

May I ask what mod that is that's got the bar with the time's on it in .5 sec intervals and has cooldowns on it?

fortexorcist

So i decided to take off all my gear (except 2 piec tier 10) and hit the dummies again....
250 a hit. Which means going from 1545 AP to 4713 we get a whopping 250 damage done with our swipe. Very pathetic indeed.

Base Swipe damage on an unarmored target at level 80 is 128.

AP coeff is 0.114.

The level 80 target dummies have a ton of armor.

BTW my swipe says in the tooltip that it does 960 damage, which is almost double what im hitting for, meaning that mobs apparently have 50% damage reduction from armor according to "swipe math"

Actual damage against an unarmored target will be 83% of the TT damage. TT damage does not account for armor.